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Must Try Harder

Posted by Naly D on Friday, 27 Nov 2009.

610x (1)_1.jpgBefore the Cricket kicked off [tipped off? Bowled off? Hit off?] this week, the fellows over at Sportsfreak were focused on the All Blacks' end of year tour, and the lack of tries in their games. The print media also seem to have chosen this as their lead angle ahead of this weekend's match (exhibit a, b, c, d... need I go on?) against France.

You can see my original response over there, where I gave some stats about the tries the All Blacks have scored and conceded in the NH over the past 11 years, but it sparked something in me. At school, I didn't really pay much attention in Maths. If it was something that captured my attention (like graphs and shit) I'd do it, but as soon as I got to sixth form I dropped it. It's never been a problem in day to day life, but this week I've felt completely incompetent. I've been trying to come up with all kinds of mathmatical stats and graphs for this post, and I'm extremely lucky to have Hadyn's patient tutelage to help me. If it hadn't been for him, you'd have all kinds of data here, and it would be presented on an unreadable line graph.

Something I didn't need help for was gathering the data for this. And it's actually a new feature of the Dropkicks. You can see it here. Currently it features all international test matches from 2006-today, but I may backdate it eventually if I see the need, and I may use it for a post about the Rugby World Cup and whether the 'minnow' teams are becoming more competitive.

The first table to have a look at, because I know you want to see the stuff revolving around the All Blacks, is the 6 Nations. [if this was TV that would be a hook - You would have no choice but to stick with me to find out. But this is a blog, so it doesn't work as well... Fuck.]

Enough Shenanigans, let me see it!

Smiling Dingo Can't Hide From The Numbers

Posted by Naly D on Wednesday, 25 Nov 2009.

Warning: This post is a not-to-subtle call to attention directed at Robbie Deans. Yesterday I tweeted this:

Can anyone guess what these numbers mean? 76, .842 24, .708 27, .519

Graham Henry has been the coach of the All Blacks for 76 matches and has a .842 win percentage. Peter de Viliers, the coach of the Springboks who copped a fair bashing last year, has been in charge for 24 matches and has a .708 win record. I think you know who the third coach is: Robbie Deans. 27 games, .519 win record. He's only just won more than half the internationals he's been the boss for.

Let me see more numbers!

Test Try Table

Posted by Naly D on Tuesday, 24 Nov 2009.
Date Teams Try Ratio
6 Nations
Sat, 04 Feb 2006 IRE v ITA 2:1
Sat, 04 Feb 2006 ENG v WAL 6:1
Sun, 05 Feb 2006 SCO v FRA 2:2
Sat, 11 Feb 2006 FRA v IRE 6:4
Sat, 11 Feb 2006 ITA v ENG 1:4
Sun, 12 Feb 2006 WAL v SCO 4:2
Sat, 25 Feb 2006 FRA v ITA 5:0
Sat, 25 Feb 2006 SCO v ENG 0:0
Sun, 26 Feb 2006 IRE v WAL 3:1
Sat, 11 Mar 2006 WAL v ITA 2:2
Sat, 11 Mar 2006 IRE v SCO 0:0
Sun, 12 Mar 2006 FRA v ENG 3:0
Sat, 18 Mar 2006 ITA v SCO 1:1
Sat, 18 Mar 2006 WAL v FRA 1:2
Sat, 18 Mar 2006 ENG v IRE 2:3
Southern tour
Sat, 10 Jun 2006 SAF v SCO 4:1
Sat, 10 Jun 2006 NZL v IRE 3:2
Sun, 11 Jun 2006 JAP v ITA 0:7
Sun, 11 Jun 2006 ARG v WAL 3:3
Sun, 11 Jun 2006 AUS v ENG 3:0
Sat, 17 Jun 2006 FIJ v ITA 4:2
Sat, 17 Jun 2006 SAF v SCO 1:2
Sat, 17 Jun 2006 ARG v WAL 3:3
Sat, 17 Jun 2006 NZL v IRE 3:2
Sat, 17 Jun 2006 AUS v ENG 6:2
Sat, 24 Jun 2006 SAF v FRA 1:4
Sat, 24 Jun 2006 AUS v IRE 5:2
Tri-Nations
Sat, 08 Jul 2006 NZL v AUS 4:2
Sat, 15 Jul 2006 AUS v SAF 6:0
Sat, 22 Jul 2006 NZL v SAF 2:2
Sat, 29 Jul 2006 AUS v NZL 0:1
Sat, 05 Aug 2006 AUS v SAF 2:2
Sat, 19 Aug 2006 NZL v AUS 3:3
Sat, 26 Aug 2006 SAF v NZL 3:5
Sat, 02 Sep 2006 SAF v NZL 2:2
Sat, 09 Sep 2006 SAF v AUS 2:1
Northern Tour
Sat, 04 Nov 2006 WAL v AUS 2:4
Sun, 05 Nov 2006 ENG v NZL 3:4
Sat, 11 Nov 2006 WAL v PAC 5:3
Sat, 11 Nov 2006 ENG v ARG 2:1
Sat, 11 Nov 2006 ITA v AUS 0:3
Sat, 11 Nov 2006 IRE v SAF 4:2
Sat, 11 Nov 2006 FRA v NZL 0:7
Sat, 18 Nov 2006 SCO v PAC 4:4
Sat, 18 Nov 2006 ENG v SAF 2:2
Sat, 18 Nov 2006 ITA v ARG 1:2
Sat, 18 Nov 2006 FRA v NZL 1:2
Sun, 19 Nov 2006 IRE v AUS 2:0
Sat, 25 Nov 2006 ENG v SAF 1:1
Sat, 25 Nov 2006 SCO v AUS 2:5
Sat, 25 Nov 2006 WAL v NZL 1:5
Sat, 25 Nov 2006 FRA v ARG 3:2
Sun, 26 Nov 2006 IRE v PAC 8:3
Other Internationals
Sat, 17 Jun 2006 ROM v FRA 1:9
Sat, 24 Jun 2006 ARG v NZL 1:3
Sat, 01 Jul 2006 CHL v ARG 1:10
Sat, 01 Jul 2006 TON v SAM 0:5
Sat, 08 Jul 2006 ARG v URU 2:0
Sat, 07 Oct 2006 ITA v POR 13:0
Sat, 14 Oct 2006 RUS v ITA 1:9
Sat, 11 Nov 2006 SCO v ROM 7:0
Fri, 17 Nov 2006 WAL v CAN 9:2
Sat, 25 Nov 2006 ITA v CAN 5:0
Date Teams Try Ratio
6 Nations
Sat, 03 Feb 2007 ITA v FRA 0:5
Sat, 03 Feb 2007 ENG v SCO 4:2
Sun, 04 Feb 2007 WAL v IRE 0:3
Sat, 10 Feb 2007 ENG v ITA 1:1
Sat, 10 Feb 2007 SCO v WAL 0:0
Sun, 11 Feb 2007 IRE v FRA 1:2
Sat, 24 Feb 2007 SCO v ITA 2:4
Sat, 24 Feb 2007 IRE v ENG 4:1
Sat, 24 Feb 2007 FRA v WAL 2:3
Sat, 10 Mar 2007 SCO v IRE 0:1
Sat, 10 Mar 2007 ITA v WAL 2:2
Sun, 11 Mar 2007 ENG v FRA 2:0
Sat, 17 Mar 2007 ITA v IRE 2:8
Sat, 17 Mar 2007 FRA v SCO 6:3
Sat, 17 Mar 2007 WAL v ENG 2:2
Southern Tour
Sat, 26 May 2007 ARG v IRE 1:2
Sat, 26 May 2007 SAF v ENG 7:1
Sat, 26 May 2007 AUS v WAL 4:2
Sat, 02 Jun 2007 ARG v IRE 1:0
Sat, 02 Jun 2007 URU v ITA 1:4
Sat, 02 Jun 2007 SAF v ENG 8:1
Sat, 02 Jun 2007 NZL v FRA 5:1
Sat, 02 Jun 2007 AUS v WAL 3:0
Sat, 09 Jun 2007 ARG v ITA 2:0
Sat, 09 Jun 2007 NZL v FRA 9:1
Sat, 16 Jun 2007 NZL v CAN 10:1
Sat, 23 Jun 2007 SAM v TON 7:0
Tri-Nations
Sat, 23 Jun 2007 SAF v NZL 2:2
Sat, 16 Jun 2007 SAF v AUS 1:1
Sat, 30 Jun 2007 AUS v NZL 2:2
Sat, 07 Jul 2007 AUS v SAF 3:2
Sat, 14 Jul 2007 NZL v SAF 3:0
Sat, 21 Jul 2007 NZL v AUS 1:0
Other Internationals
Sat, 09 Jun 2007 SAF v SAM 5:1
Sat, 09 Jun 2007 AUS v FIJ 9:0
Sat, 04 Aug 2007 ARG v CHL 10:2
Sat, 04 Aug 2007 ENG v WAL 9:1
Sat, 11 Aug 2007 SCO v IRE 5:2
Sat, 11 Aug 2007 ENG v FRA 0:2
Wed, 15 Aug 2007 SAF v NAM 15:1
Sat, 18 Aug 2007 ITA v JAP 5:2
Sat, 18 Aug 2007 WAL v ARG 3:2
Sat, 18 Aug 2007 FRA v ENG 1:0
Fri, 24 Aug 2007 IRE v ITA 2:2
Sat, 25 Aug 2007 SCO v SAF 0:3
Sun, 26 Aug 2007 WAL v FRA 1:4
Sat, 24 Nov 2007 WAL v SAF 2:5
Rugby World Cup
Fri, 07 Sep 2007 FRA v ARG 0:1
Sat, 08 Sep 2007 NZL v ITA 11:2
Sat, 08 Sep 2007 AUS v JAP 13:0
Sat, 08 Sep 2007 ENG v USA 3:1
Sun, 09 Sep 2007 WAL v CAN 5:3
Sun, 09 Sep 2007 SAF v SAM 8:1
Sun, 09 Sep 2007 SCO v POR 8:1
Sun, 09 Sep 2007 IRE v NAM 5:2
Tue, 11 Sep 2007 ARG v GEO 4:0
Wed, 12 Sep 2007 USA v TON 2:3
Wed, 12 Sep 2007 FIJ v JAP 4:3
Wed, 12 Sep 2007 ITA v ROM 2:2
Fri, 14 Sep 2007 ENG v SAF 0:3
Sat, 15 Sep 2007 NZL v POR 16:1
Sat, 15 Sep 2007 WAL v AUS 2:4
Sat, 15 Sep 2007 I RE v GEO 2:1
Sun, 16 Sep 2007 FIJ v CAN 4:1
Sun, 16 Sep 2007 SAM v TON 0:1
Sun, 16 Sep 2007 FRA v NAM 13:1
Tue, 18 Sep 2007 SCO v ROM 6:0
Wed, 19 Sep 2007 ITA v POR 3:1
Thu, 20 Sep 2007 WAL v JAP 11:2
Fri, 21 Sep 2007 FRA v IRE 2:0
Sat, 22 Sep 2007 SAF v TON 4:3
Sat, 22 Sep 2007 ENG v SAM 4:1
Sat, 22 Sep 2007 ARG v NAM 9:0
Sun, 23 Sep 2007 AUS v FIJ 7:2
Sun, 23 Sep 2007 SCO v NZL 0:6
Tue, 25 Sep 2007 CAN v JAP 2:2
Tue, 25 Sep 2007 ROM v POR 2:1
Wed, 26 Sep 2007 GEO v NAM 3:0
Wed, 26 Sep 2007 USA v SAM 2:3
Fri, 28 Sep 2007 ENG v TON 4:2
Sat, 29 Sep 2007 NZL v ROM 13:1
Sat, 29 Sep 2007 AUS v CAN 6:0
Sat, 29 Sep 2007 WAL v FIJ 5:4
Sat, 29 Sep 2007 SCO v ITA 0:1
Sun, 30 Sep 2007 FRA v GEO 9:1
Sun, 30 Sep 2007 IRE v ARG 2:2
Sun, 30 Sep 2007 SAF v USA 9:2
Rugby World Cup [Finals]
Sat, 06 Oct 2007 AUS v ENG 1:0
Sat, 06 Oct 2007 NZL v FRA 2:2
Sun, 07 Oct 2007 SAF v FIJ 5:2
Sun, 07 Oct 2007 ARG v SCO 1:1
Sat, 13 Oct 2007 FRA v ENG 0:1
Sun, 14 Oct 2007 SAF v ARG 4:1
Fri, 19 Oct 2007 FRA v ARG 1:5
Sat, 20 Oct 2007 SAF v ENG 0:0
Date Teams Try Ratio
6 Nations
Sat, 02 Feb 2008 ENG v WAL 1:2
Sun, 03 Feb 2008 SCO v FRA 0:3
Sat, 09 Feb 2008 WAL v SCO 3:0
Sat, 09 Feb 2008 FRA v IRE 4:2
Sun, 10 Feb 2008 ITA v ENG 1:2
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 WAL v ITA 5:1
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 IRE v SCO 5:1
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 FRA v ENG 1:2
Sat, 08 Mar 2008 SCO v ENG 0:0
Sat, 08 Mar 2008 IRE v WAL 0:1
Sun, 09 Mar 2008 FRA v ITA 3:1
Sat, 15 Mar 2008 ITA v SCO 2:2
Sat, 15 Mar 2008 ENG v IRE 3:1
Sat, 15 Mar 2008 WAL v FRA 2:0
Southern Tour
Sat, 07 Jun 2008 ARG v SCO 2:0
Sat, 07 Jun 2008 SAF v WAL 4:2
Sat, 07 Jun 2008 NZL v IRE 2:1
Sat, 14 Jun 2008 ARG v SCO 2:2
Sat, 14 Jun 2008 AUS v IRE 2:2
Sat, 14 Jun 2008 SAF v WAL 4:2
Sat, 14 Jun 2008 NZL v ENG 4:2
Sat, 21 Jun 2008 SAF v ITA 4:0
Sat, 21 Jun 2008 NZL v ENG 5:2
Sat, 28 Jun 2008 AUS v FRA 4:1
Sat, 28 Jun 2008 ARG v ITA 0:1
Sat, 05 Jul 2008 AUS v FRA 4:1
Tri-Nations
Sat, 05 Jul 2008 NZL v SAF 1:1
Sat, 12 Jul 2008 NZL v SAF 1:2
Sat, 19 Jul 2008 AUS v SAF 2:0
Sat, 26 Jul 2008 AUS v NZL 4:3
Sat, 02 Aug 2008 NZL v AUS 4:1
Sat, 16 Aug 2008 SAF v NZL 0:3
Sat, 23 Aug 2008 SAF v AUS 2:3
Sat, 30 Aug 2008 SAF v AUS 8:1
Sat, 13 Sep 2008 AUS v NZL 3:4
Northern Tour
Sat, 08 Nov 2008 WAL v SAF 0:2
Sat, 08 Nov 2008 ITA v AUS 1:2
Sat, 08 Nov 2008 SCO v NZL 0:4
Sat, 08 Nov 2008 FRA v ARG 0:0
Fri, 14 Nov 2008 WAL v CAN 4:1
Sat, 15 Nov 2008 IRE v NZL 0:3
Sat, 15 Nov 2008 SCO v SAF 1:1
Sat, 15 Nov 2008 ENG v AUS 1:1
Sat, 15 Nov 2008 FRA v PAC 5:1
Sat, 15 Nov 2008 ITA v ARG 1:1
Sat, 22 Nov 2008 WAL v NZL 0:2
Sat, 22 Nov 2008 SCO v CAN 6:0
Sat, 22 Nov 2008 IRE v ARG 1:0
Sat, 22 Nov 2008 ENG v SAF 0:5
Sat, 22 Nov 2008 ITA v PAC 2:3
Sat, 22 Nov 2008 FRA v AUS 1:2
Sat, 29 Nov 2008 ENG v NZL 0:3
Sat, 29 Nov 2008 WAL v AUS 2:2
Other Internationals
Sat, 09 Aug 2008 SAF v ARG 9:0
Wed, 03 Sep 2008 NZL v SAM 15:2
Sat, 01 Nov 2008 NZL v AUS 2:2
Sat, 08 Nov 2008 IRE v CAN 8:0
Sat, 08 Nov 2008 ENG v PAC 5:1
Date Teams Try Ratio
6 Nations
Sat, 07 Feb 2009 ENG v ITA 5:1
Sat, 07 Feb 2009 IRE v FRA 3:2
Sun, 08 Feb 2009 SCO v WAL 1:4
Sat, 14 Feb 2009 FRA v SCO 1:1
Sat, 14 Feb 2009 WAL v ENG 1:2
Sun, 15 Feb 2009 ITA v IRE 0:5
Fri, 27 Feb 2009 FRA v WAL 2:1
Sat, 28 Feb 2009 SCO v ITA 2:0
Sat, 28 Feb 2009 IRE v ENG 1:1
Sat, 14 Mar 2009 ITA v WAL 0:2
Sat, 14 Mar 2009 SCO v IRE 0:1
Sun, 15 Mar 2009 ENG v FRA 5:2
Sat, 21 Mar 2009 ITA v FRA 1:7
Sat, 21 Mar 2009 ENG v SCO 3:0
Sat, 21 Mar 2009 WAL v IRE 0:2
Southern Tour
Sat, 13 Jun 2009 ARG v ENG 2:1
Sat, 13 Jun 2009 AUS v ITA 5:1
Sat, 13 Jun 2009 NZL v FRA 2:3
Sat, 20 Jun 2009 NZL v FRA 1:1
Sat, 20 Jun 2009 AUS v ITA 5:0
Sat, 27 Jun 2009 NZL v ITA 3:0
Sat, 27 Jun 2009 AUS v FRA 1:0
Tri-Nations
Sat, 18 Jul 2009 NZL v AUS 1:1
Sat, 25 Jul 2009 SAF v NZL 2:1
Sat, 01 Aug 2009 SAF v NZL 1:1
Sat, 08 Aug 2009 SAF v AUS 1:2
Sat, 22 Aug 2009 AUS v NZL 0:1
Sat, 29 Aug 2009 AUS v SAF 3:4
Sat, 05 Sep 2009 AUS v SAF 2:0
Sat, 12 Sep 2009 NZL v SAF 2:2
Sat, 19 Sep 2009 NZL v AUS 3:0
Northern Tour
Sat, 07 Nov 2009 ENG v AUS 0:2
Sat, 07 Nov 2009 WAL v NZL 0:1
Fri, 13 Nov 2009 WAL v SAM 1:1
Fri, 13 Nov 2009 FRA v SAF 1:1
Sat, 14 Nov 2009 ENG v ARG 1:0
Sat, 14 Nov 2009 SCO v FIJ 2:1
Sat, 14 Nov 2009 ITA v NZL 0:1
Sun, 15 Nov 2009 IRE v AUS 2:2
Sat, 21 Nov 2009 SCO v AUS 0:1
Sat, 21 Nov 2009 ENG v NZL 0:1
Sat, 21 Nov 2009 WAL v ARG 3:1
Sat, 21 Nov 2009 ITA v SAF 1:4
Sat, 21 Nov 2009 FRA v SAM 7:1
Sat, 21 Nov 2009 IRE v FIJ 5:0
British and Irish Lions Tour
Sat, 20 Jun 2009 SAF v LIO 2:3
Sat, 27 Jun 2009 SAF v LIO 3:1
Sat, 04 Jul 2009 SAF v LIO 0:3
Other Internationals
Sat, 23 May 2009 CAN v IRE 0:3
Sat, 30 May 2009 CAN v WAL 2:2
Sun, 31 May 2009 USA v IRE 1:4
Sat, 06 Jun 2009 ENG v ARG 3:0
Sat, 06 Jun 2009 USA v WAL 2:6
Sat, 04 Jul 2009 USA v CAN 0:0
Sat, 11 Jul 2009 CAN v USA 6:2
Sat, 31 Oct 2009 NZL v AUS 2:1

It's all about the precentages, baby.

Posted by Naly D on Monday, 13 Jul 2009.

After Hadyn's great Public Address post on the winning percentages of New Zealand and Tri Nations coaches, I was tempted to delve a little deeper and look at the winning precentages of as many teams as I could find. I was aided in my efforts by a very nifty little website. Here's the list, since 1901, in order of most-least successful teams that were available on the site.

NZ: .744
South Africa: .644
France: .551
Wales: .530
England: .529
Australia: .526
Ireland: .437
Argentina: .421
Scotland: .406

In an interesting tidbit, I found New Zealand has lost more than three games in a row twice, five times in 1998 [John Hart] and six times in 1949 [Alex McDonald].

Statistics iz kewl

Posted by Hadyn on Wednesday, 27 May 2009.

There is a new site called StatPlot where you can go and make really frickin cool graphs. Like this one:

­­­It took me no time at all to put this together and was (in a geeky way) really fun. At the moment it's American sports (though not all American sports) but they promise more data and soon.

Black Caps - average

Posted by noizy on Thursday, 26 Mar 2009.

"That's pretty average" is a common call from your 'average' TV or radio commentator to describe something that is usually pretty poor; ie. less than average.

New Zealand's batting in the 1st Test against the Indians has been described thus (well, probably, but it hasn't been praised to the high heavens, so I'm taking a leap of faith), but, was it?

If this test line-up scored their actual test averages, what would the NZ total be...?

  • Jamie How - 23
  • Tim McIntosh - 41
  • Martin Guptill - 31
  • Ross Taylor - 32
  • Jesse Ryder - 51
  • Brendon McCullum - 31
  • James Franklin - 19
  • Daniel Vettori - 28
  • Iain O'Brien - 4
  • Jeetan Patel - 13
  • Chris Martin - 2

TOTAL: 275

Which is scarily close to the 279 we scored in both innings in the first test*. So, New Zealand were average in the that test. Go figure.

Quick off the Mark

Posted by Hadyn on Friday, 20 Jun 2008.

Which All Black has scored the fastest number of tries per test?

If you answered Sitiveni Sivivatu with 23 tries from 23 tests, you'd be very wrong, and we'd be forced to shake our heads with contempt and turn our backs on you.

Although Sivi has maintained a perfect 100% ratio since his four-try debut, it's acutally "Smoking" Josevata Rokocoko who has the best ratio (at the same mark) with 27 tries from 23 tests.

Christian Cullen was also on 23/23. Kirwan was 20/23 and Umaga on 19/23.

The 23 tries puts Sivi ninth on the All Blacks all-time tries list (just behind Justin Marshall) and only 26 tries behind Doug Howlett's 49 try mark, set last year.

Dropkicks Research Dept: The Biggest Loser

Posted by Hadyn on Monday, 21 Apr 2008.

Danica.JPGDanica Patrick’s recent struggles for victory in the IRL caused some people to call her the “Anna Kournikova of racing”. Now that she has won a race the moniker has been removed.

But was it fair in the first place? And how does Patrick and Kournikova compare to other big-name SCYSFs*?

*So Close Yet So Far

Well the Dropkicks are not the type to shy away from such hard-nosed investigative questions, so we set our Research Department to work. They scoured the internet for ages sifting through many hundreds of photos of Danica Patrick in bikinis before finally being yelled at to "get back to work!"

And here's what they came up with (obviously comparisons across sports are slightly silly but let’s have a look anyway):

Athlete Sport Games/events before first win Years before first win Total number of victories now Total number of titles now
Danica Patrick Racing 51 races over four seasons (including this year) 4 years (2005-2008) 1 0
Anna Kournikova Tennis (singles) 21 Grand slams + 40 other tournaments = 61 total (338 matches) 9, still no tournament victory If ITF women's circuit and Fed Cup participations are included, overall win-loss record stands at 209-129 matches 0
Phil Mickelson Golf Couldn’t find the info on this one, yes, we could've looked harder Before first PGA tour win – 2 years
Before first Majors victory – 14 years
33 PGA Tour victories 3 Major titles
Jack Nicklaus Golf 12 Majors (unknown number of PGA tour events) Six years (1957-1962) 73 PGA Tour wins 18 Majors
Buffalo Bills American Football 612 games (including post-season) since the AFL-NFL merger and the only team to reach four consecutive Superbowls 1 (because they have won a game, just no championships).
38 years without a championship title.
276 regular season wins and 14 post-season wins 0-4 Superbowl wins
New Zealand Test Cricket 44 tests 26 years 65 N/A
Jenson Button F1 Racing 117 races 7 years 1 0

It’s interesting to note that Jenson Button made some rather nasty comments about the possibility of Patrick racing F1 cars. Obviously now she can tell him to go fuck himself.

So as you can see Danika Patrick was no Anna Kournikova. Kournikova herself is no Buffalo Bills (despite how bad they were). Patrick may well become Jack Nicklaus, probably not,  who knows.

Post-match analysis - part two

Posted by Hadyn on Thursday, 11 Oct 2007.

I can’t believe its Thursday already and I haven’t put up anything about the other two non-upset quarterfinals.

South Africa – Fiji

What we said:

South
Africa is not Wales and Fiji have little chance of an upset... South
Africa dominate all of the important stats especially the forward-based
ones…Fiji will go out and do what they always do: play sevens.

The numbers (updated after the last table showed Fiji won!):

Stat Fiji South Africa
Points for 20 37
Tries 2 5
Tries per m.o.p.* 0.05 0.12
Points per m.o.p. 0.5 0.9
Handling errors 11 11
Handling errors per m.o.p 0.28 0.27
Kicking percentage (place kicks) 100% 63%
Successful tackles 82% 85%
Own lineouts won 92% 86%
Opposition lineouts won 14% 8%
Own scrums won (%) 89% 100%
Scrums won against the head (%) 0% 11%
Turnovers per tackle made 0.07 0.05
Turnovers per minute of opposition possession 0.10 0.13
Time spent in own 22 8mins 27secs 4mins 42secs
Penalties conceded 7 7

 *minute of possession

Apart from the lineout
and the kicking South Africa seemed to run the show. What I don’t have
here is the fact that at 60mins the scores were equal at 20. Fiji
didn’t show any respect and really did back themselves to win.

This does not bode well for South Africa. They are due to face a very confident and well rounded Argentinean team.

Argentina – Scotland

What we said:

Only
four weeks ago people would have said that this match-up between
Argentina and Scotland would be close but that the Scots would win.
It’s amazing what a victory over France and Ireland can do for a team.
Not to mention hard and fast defensive rugby, good kicking, smart
tactics and a winning attitude

It seems though, that the Argentineans are better at getting the ball back off you and I am a strong believer that turnovers win games

The Argentineans are the only team I have seen so far that has the overall pace that matches the All Blacks.

Argentina look the business and are my “Lock of the Week”

The numbers:

Stat Argentina Scotland
Points for 19 13
Tries 1 1
Tries per m.o.p.* 0.02 0.03
Points per m.o.p. 0.5 0.3
Handling errors 9 12
Handling errors per m.o.p 0.22 0.31
Kicking percentage (place kicks) 80% 75%
Successful tackles 83% 93%
Own lineouts won 85% 95%
Opposition lineouts won 5% 15%
Own scrums won (%) 88% 75%
Scrums won against the head (%) 88% 75%
Turnovers per tackle made 0.13 0.05
Turnovers per minute of opposition possession 0.28 0.10
Time spent in own 22 3mins 22secs 4mins 53secs
Penalties conceded 8 6

*minute of possession

Well a 19-13 isn’t really “Lock of
the Week material. But they did enough for victory. I think perhaps it
was actually Scotland playing better than Argentina playing worse. Then
again Argentina’s no-tries-against record is in tatters.

Scotland
has kept their 0.30 rate of handling errors going, which is not so good
to see. But they did well in the lineout snaffling 15% away from the
Argentineans. Still turnovers once again tell the story. Argentina won
the ball in the ruck and maul every three and a half minutes that
Scotland had it. Scotland only got the ball back every 10 minutes that
Argentina had it.

This is where Argentina won the game. They
only had 51% of the possession but it was their ability to get the ball
back off Scotland that enabled the victory. I don’t have the breakdown
but I imagine that a lot of Scotland’s penalties would have come from
holding on to the ball.

Scotland can be congratulated on playing better than they have so far but Argentina are fast becoming the team to beat.

Post-match analysis - part one

Posted by Hadyn on Monday, 08 Oct 2007.

Didn’t the refs suck?! Just kidding, this is not a sour grapes post. Especially given the amount of comments here and on other sites about how New Zealanders are bad losers. This is an actual post-match stats breakdown with the intent of giving fans some more info about the matches they have just seen. Let's call it "closure".

Australia – England

What the Dropkicks said:

Looking at the top table of results from pool matches (and with all caveats noted) this looks like another close game. Remember that Australia did not have to face a resurgent Tonga or a Samoan team seemingly out for blood.

I still back the Wallabies though. They have it over the English in the lineouts, the turnovers, the tackles and territory. The only way England can win this game (based on the crude stats above) is to play incredibly good forward rugby and let Johnny keep the scoreboard ticking over

The numbers:

Stat England Australia
Points for 12 10
Tries 0 1
Tries per m.o.p.* 0.00 0.03
Points per m.o.p. 0.3 0.3**
Handling errors 7 9
Handling errors per m.o.p 0.17 0.23
Kicking percentage (place kicks) 57% 40%
Successful tackles 89% 91%
Own lineouts won 100% 93%
Opposition lineouts won 7% 0%
Own scrums won (%) 100% 78%
Scrums won against the head (%) 22% 0%
Turnovers per tackle made 0.12 0.06
Turnovers per minute of opposition possession 0.23 0.12
Time spent in own 22 5mins 27secs 5mins 45secs
Penalties conceded 5 9

*per minute of possession
**rounding

Not the first “upset” of the tournament but still a shock. The stats above show that England clearly dominated the set pieces and the tackle-ball area with roughly one turnover every 8 tackles.

Solid English forward pressure and an unwillingness by the Aussies to put their brilliant back line to the outside gave the English the victory.

We have to say though, to the Australian press, lay off the Wallabies! (and the All Blacks for that matter, we’ll handle that).

New Zealand – France

What the Dropkicks said:

“Now, if you ignore the “points for” (and the implied try-stats), not a lot separates us from the French. And lets be honest, we played some terrible teams while France had to face the best defence in Argentina.

… both teams had roughly the same amount of points against. This is perhaps more telling…

…We also gave up less penalties than the French, which means cool heads under pressure, which is what you need when it comes to the final…

Let’s just hope (or pray) that we are not the Fish n Chip-Eating Surrender Kiwis.

The numbers:

Stat New Zealand France
Points for 18 20
Tries 2 2
Tries per m.o.p.* 0.04 0.09
Points per m.o.p. 0.3 0.9
Handling errors 10 3
Handling errors per m.o.p 0.18 0.13
Kicking percentage (place kicks) 75% 67%
Successful tackles 77% 90%
Own lineouts won 100% 69%
Opposition lineouts won 31% 0%
Own scrums won (%) 100% 90%
Scrums won against the head (%) 10% 0%
Turnovers per tackle made 0.14 0.04
Turnovers per minute of opposition possession 0.22 0.12
Time spent in own 22 2mins 7secs 8mins 10secs
Penalties conceded 7 2

*per minute of possession

It is quite obvious from these stats that New Zealand actually won this game and that some sort of error has occurred.

The All Blacks dominated possession (71%) and territory (63%). We camped ourselves in the French 22 with some very long sets, sometimes 15 phases. And our forwards were grinding them into paste at the set pieces (Ali Williams deserved Man of the Match for his lineout work alone, but it was given to Luke McAlister).

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There are some, desperately seeking a figurehead upon which to pin the blame, who will single out the referee, and some of the stats bear this out. The two penalties conceded by the French were the lowest of any team at this World Cup. Also the French spent the second largest amount of time in their own 22 of any team this weekend (only 17 seconds less than the Fijians), a large proportion of this was during the second half during which they committed no penalties.

Prior to this game the team that had conceded the least penalties was New Zealand with roughly 5 per game, while France were 8th with roughly 7 per game. You could argue that France decided to play clean for this game, but it’s more likely that some calls weren’t picked up.

There are some, desperately seeking a figurehead upon which to pin the blame, who look to our loose forwards as not doing much, but with New Zealand turning the ball over once every seven tackles (the highest of the quarterfinalists) that seems a little harsh. And France were only able to manage a turnover once every 25 tackles (the worst of the quarterfinalists), so our ball retention at the ruck and maul was good too…why did we lose again?

I believe that the reason New Zealand was beaten can’t be seen in these numbers. It was an intangible quantity. The All Blacks lacked pace in the final quarter. In the first quarter when we had momentum and looked good we got caught in a kicking match.

With France’s low turnover stats (despite their good tackle percentage) we should have been running it early and often. And while we did one in three of France’s lineouts we just weren’t finding touch. The midfield combination didn’t look connected when running close but out wide we were doing well.

France finished the game with all the momentum and in the end that is what gave them the game.

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