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Posted by Naly D on Friday, 27 Nov 2009.

610x (1)_1.jpgBefore the Cricket kicked off [tipped off? Bowled off? Hit off?] this week, the fellows over at Sportsfreak were focused on the All Blacks' end of year tour, and the lack of tries in their games. The print media also seem to have chosen this as their lead angle ahead of this weekend's match (exhibit a, b, c, d... need I go on?) against France.

You can see my original response over there, where I gave some stats about the tries the All Blacks have scored and conceded in the NH over the past 11 years, but it sparked something in me. At school, I didn't really pay much attention in Maths. If it was something that captured my attention (like graphs and shit) I'd do it, but as soon as I got to sixth form I dropped it. It's never been a problem in day to day life, but this week I've felt completely incompetent. I've been trying to come up with all kinds of mathmatical stats and graphs for this post, and I'm extremely lucky to have Hadyn's patient tutelage to help me. If it hadn't been for him, you'd have all kinds of data here, and it would be presented on an unreadable line graph.

Something I didn't need help for was gathering the data for this. And it's actually a new feature of the Dropkicks. You can see it here. Currently it features all international test matches from 2006-today, but I may backdate it eventually if I see the need, and I may use it for a post about the Rugby World Cup and whether the 'minnow' teams are becoming more competitive.

The first table to have a look at, because I know you want to see the stuff revolving around the All Blacks, is the 6 Nations. [if this was TV that would be a hook - You would have no choice but to stick with me to find out. But this is a blog, so it doesn't work as well... Fuck.]

Enough Shenanigans, let me see it!

Test Try Table

Posted by Naly D on Tuesday, 24 Nov 2009.
Date Teams Try Ratio
6 Nations
Sat, 04 Feb 2006 IRE v ITA 2:1
Sat, 04 Feb 2006 ENG v WAL 6:1
Sun, 05 Feb 2006 SCO v FRA 2:2
Sat, 11 Feb 2006 FRA v IRE 6:4
Sat, 11 Feb 2006 ITA v ENG 1:4
Sun, 12 Feb 2006 WAL v SCO 4:2
Sat, 25 Feb 2006 FRA v ITA 5:0
Sat, 25 Feb 2006 SCO v ENG 0:0
Sun, 26 Feb 2006 IRE v WAL 3:1
Sat, 11 Mar 2006 WAL v ITA 2:2
Sat, 11 Mar 2006 IRE v SCO 0:0
Sun, 12 Mar 2006 FRA v ENG 3:0
Sat, 18 Mar 2006 ITA v SCO 1:1
Sat, 18 Mar 2006 WAL v FRA 1:2
Sat, 18 Mar 2006 ENG v IRE 2:3
Southern tour
Sat, 10 Jun 2006 SAF v SCO 4:1
Sat, 10 Jun 2006 NZL v IRE 3:2
Sun, 11 Jun 2006 JAP v ITA 0:7
Sun, 11 Jun 2006 ARG v WAL 3:3
Sun, 11 Jun 2006 AUS v ENG 3:0
Sat, 17 Jun 2006 FIJ v ITA 4:2
Sat, 17 Jun 2006 SAF v SCO 1:2
Sat, 17 Jun 2006 ARG v WAL 3:3
Sat, 17 Jun 2006 NZL v IRE 3:2
Sat, 17 Jun 2006 AUS v ENG 6:2
Sat, 24 Jun 2006 SAF v FRA 1:4
Sat, 24 Jun 2006 AUS v IRE 5:2
Tri-Nations
Sat, 08 Jul 2006 NZL v AUS 4:2
Sat, 15 Jul 2006 AUS v SAF 6:0
Sat, 22 Jul 2006 NZL v SAF 2:2
Sat, 29 Jul 2006 AUS v NZL 0:1
Sat, 05 Aug 2006 AUS v SAF 2:2
Sat, 19 Aug 2006 NZL v AUS 3:3
Sat, 26 Aug 2006 SAF v NZL 3:5
Sat, 02 Sep 2006 SAF v NZL 2:2
Sat, 09 Sep 2006 SAF v AUS 2:1
Northern Tour
Sat, 04 Nov 2006 WAL v AUS 2:4
Sun, 05 Nov 2006 ENG v NZL 3:4
Sat, 11 Nov 2006 WAL v PAC 5:3
Sat, 11 Nov 2006 ENG v ARG 2:1
Sat, 11 Nov 2006 ITA v AUS 0:3
Sat, 11 Nov 2006 IRE v SAF 4:2
Sat, 11 Nov 2006 FRA v NZL 0:7
Sat, 18 Nov 2006 SCO v PAC 4:4
Sat, 18 Nov 2006 ENG v SAF 2:2
Sat, 18 Nov 2006 ITA v ARG 1:2
Sat, 18 Nov 2006 FRA v NZL 1:2
Sun, 19 Nov 2006 IRE v AUS 2:0
Sat, 25 Nov 2006 ENG v SAF 1:1
Sat, 25 Nov 2006 SCO v AUS 2:5
Sat, 25 Nov 2006 WAL v NZL 1:5
Sat, 25 Nov 2006 FRA v ARG 3:2
Sun, 26 Nov 2006 IRE v PAC 8:3
Other Internationals
Sat, 17 Jun 2006 ROM v FRA 1:9
Sat, 24 Jun 2006 ARG v NZL 1:3
Sat, 01 Jul 2006 CHL v ARG 1:10
Sat, 01 Jul 2006 TON v SAM 0:5
Sat, 08 Jul 2006 ARG v URU 2:0
Sat, 07 Oct 2006 ITA v POR 13:0
Sat, 14 Oct 2006 RUS v ITA 1:9
Sat, 11 Nov 2006 SCO v ROM 7:0
Fri, 17 Nov 2006 WAL v CAN 9:2
Sat, 25 Nov 2006 ITA v CAN 5:0
Date Teams Try Ratio
6 Nations
Sat, 03 Feb 2007 ITA v FRA 0:5
Sat, 03 Feb 2007 ENG v SCO 4:2
Sun, 04 Feb 2007 WAL v IRE 0:3
Sat, 10 Feb 2007 ENG v ITA 1:1
Sat, 10 Feb 2007 SCO v WAL 0:0
Sun, 11 Feb 2007 IRE v FRA 1:2
Sat, 24 Feb 2007 SCO v ITA 2:4
Sat, 24 Feb 2007 IRE v ENG 4:1
Sat, 24 Feb 2007 FRA v WAL 2:3
Sat, 10 Mar 2007 SCO v IRE 0:1
Sat, 10 Mar 2007 ITA v WAL 2:2
Sun, 11 Mar 2007 ENG v FRA 2:0
Sat, 17 Mar 2007 ITA v IRE 2:8
Sat, 17 Mar 2007 FRA v SCO 6:3
Sat, 17 Mar 2007 WAL v ENG 2:2
Southern Tour
Sat, 26 May 2007 ARG v IRE 1:2
Sat, 26 May 2007 SAF v ENG 7:1
Sat, 26 May 2007 AUS v WAL 4:2
Sat, 02 Jun 2007 ARG v IRE 1:0
Sat, 02 Jun 2007 URU v ITA 1:4
Sat, 02 Jun 2007 SAF v ENG 8:1
Sat, 02 Jun 2007 NZL v FRA 5:1
Sat, 02 Jun 2007 AUS v WAL 3:0
Sat, 09 Jun 2007 ARG v ITA 2:0
Sat, 09 Jun 2007 NZL v FRA 9:1
Sat, 16 Jun 2007 NZL v CAN 10:1
Sat, 23 Jun 2007 SAM v TON 7:0
Tri-Nations
Sat, 23 Jun 2007 SAF v NZL 2:2
Sat, 16 Jun 2007 SAF v AUS 1:1
Sat, 30 Jun 2007 AUS v NZL 2:2
Sat, 07 Jul 2007 AUS v SAF 3:2
Sat, 14 Jul 2007 NZL v SAF 3:0
Sat, 21 Jul 2007 NZL v AUS 1:0
Other Internationals
Sat, 09 Jun 2007 SAF v SAM 5:1
Sat, 09 Jun 2007 AUS v FIJ 9:0
Sat, 04 Aug 2007 ARG v CHL 10:2
Sat, 04 Aug 2007 ENG v WAL 9:1
Sat, 11 Aug 2007 SCO v IRE 5:2
Sat, 11 Aug 2007 ENG v FRA 0:2
Wed, 15 Aug 2007 SAF v NAM 15:1
Sat, 18 Aug 2007 ITA v JAP 5:2
Sat, 18 Aug 2007 WAL v ARG 3:2
Sat, 18 Aug 2007 FRA v ENG 1:0
Fri, 24 Aug 2007 IRE v ITA 2:2
Sat, 25 Aug 2007 SCO v SAF 0:3
Sun, 26 Aug 2007 WAL v FRA 1:4
Sat, 24 Nov 2007 WAL v SAF 2:5
Rugby World Cup
Fri, 07 Sep 2007 FRA v ARG 0:1
Sat, 08 Sep 2007 NZL v ITA 11:2
Sat, 08 Sep 2007 AUS v JAP 13:0
Sat, 08 Sep 2007 ENG v USA 3:1
Sun, 09 Sep 2007 WAL v CAN 5:3
Sun, 09 Sep 2007 SAF v SAM 8:1
Sun, 09 Sep 2007 SCO v POR 8:1
Sun, 09 Sep 2007 IRE v NAM 5:2
Tue, 11 Sep 2007 ARG v GEO 4:0
Wed, 12 Sep 2007 USA v TON 2:3
Wed, 12 Sep 2007 FIJ v JAP 4:3
Wed, 12 Sep 2007 ITA v ROM 2:2
Fri, 14 Sep 2007 ENG v SAF 0:3
Sat, 15 Sep 2007 NZL v POR 16:1
Sat, 15 Sep 2007 WAL v AUS 2:4
Sat, 15 Sep 2007 I RE v GEO 2:1
Sun, 16 Sep 2007 FIJ v CAN 4:1
Sun, 16 Sep 2007 SAM v TON 0:1
Sun, 16 Sep 2007 FRA v NAM 13:1
Tue, 18 Sep 2007 SCO v ROM 6:0
Wed, 19 Sep 2007 ITA v POR 3:1
Thu, 20 Sep 2007 WAL v JAP 11:2
Fri, 21 Sep 2007 FRA v IRE 2:0
Sat, 22 Sep 2007 SAF v TON 4:3
Sat, 22 Sep 2007 ENG v SAM 4:1
Sat, 22 Sep 2007 ARG v NAM 9:0
Sun, 23 Sep 2007 AUS v FIJ 7:2
Sun, 23 Sep 2007 SCO v NZL 0:6
Tue, 25 Sep 2007 CAN v JAP 2:2
Tue, 25 Sep 2007 ROM v POR 2:1
Wed, 26 Sep 2007 GEO v NAM 3:0
Wed, 26 Sep 2007 USA v SAM 2:3
Fri, 28 Sep 2007 ENG v TON 4:2
Sat, 29 Sep 2007 NZL v ROM 13:1
Sat, 29 Sep 2007 AUS v CAN 6:0
Sat, 29 Sep 2007 WAL v FIJ 5:4
Sat, 29 Sep 2007 SCO v ITA 0:1
Sun, 30 Sep 2007 FRA v GEO 9:1
Sun, 30 Sep 2007 IRE v ARG 2:2
Sun, 30 Sep 2007 SAF v USA 9:2
Rugby World Cup [Finals]
Sat, 06 Oct 2007 AUS v ENG 1:0
Sat, 06 Oct 2007 NZL v FRA 2:2
Sun, 07 Oct 2007 SAF v FIJ 5:2
Sun, 07 Oct 2007 ARG v SCO 1:1
Sat, 13 Oct 2007 FRA v ENG 0:1
Sun, 14 Oct 2007 SAF v ARG 4:1
Fri, 19 Oct 2007 FRA v ARG 1:5
Sat, 20 Oct 2007 SAF v ENG 0:0
Date Teams Try Ratio
6 Nations
Sat, 02 Feb 2008 ENG v WAL 1:2
Sun, 03 Feb 2008 SCO v FRA 0:3
Sat, 09 Feb 2008 WAL v SCO 3:0
Sat, 09 Feb 2008 FRA v IRE 4:2
Sun, 10 Feb 2008 ITA v ENG 1:2
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 WAL v ITA 5:1
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 IRE v SCO 5:1
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 FRA v ENG 1:2
Sat, 08 Mar 2008 SCO v ENG 0:0
Sat, 08 Mar 2008 IRE v WAL 0:1
Sun, 09 Mar 2008 FRA v ITA 3:1
Sat, 15 Mar 2008 ITA v SCO 2:2
Sat, 15 Mar 2008 ENG v IRE 3:1
Sat, 15 Mar 2008 WAL v FRA 2:0
Southern Tour
Sat, 07 Jun 2008 ARG v SCO 2:0
Sat, 07 Jun 2008 SAF v WAL 4:2
Sat, 07 Jun 2008 NZL v IRE 2:1
Sat, 14 Jun 2008 ARG v SCO 2:2
Sat, 14 Jun 2008 AUS v IRE 2:2
Sat, 14 Jun 2008 SAF v WAL 4:2
Sat, 14 Jun 2008 NZL v ENG 4:2
Sat, 21 Jun 2008 SAF v ITA 4:0
Sat, 21 Jun 2008 NZL v ENG 5:2
Sat, 28 Jun 2008 AUS v FRA 4:1
Sat, 28 Jun 2008 ARG v ITA 0:1
Sat, 05 Jul 2008 AUS v FRA 4:1
Tri-Nations
Sat, 05 Jul 2008 NZL v SAF 1:1
Sat, 12 Jul 2008 NZL v SAF 1:2
Sat, 19 Jul 2008 AUS v SAF 2:0
Sat, 26 Jul 2008 AUS v NZL 4:3
Sat, 02 Aug 2008 NZL v AUS 4:1
Sat, 16 Aug 2008 SAF v NZL 0:3
Sat, 23 Aug 2008 SAF v AUS 2:3
Sat, 30 Aug 2008 SAF v AUS 8:1
Sat, 13 Sep 2008 AUS v NZL 3:4
Northern Tour
Sat, 08 Nov 2008 WAL v SAF 0:2
Sat, 08 Nov 2008 ITA v AUS 1:2
Sat, 08 Nov 2008 SCO v NZL 0:4
Sat, 08 Nov 2008 FRA v ARG 0:0
Fri, 14 Nov 2008 WAL v CAN 4:1
Sat, 15 Nov 2008 IRE v NZL 0:3
Sat, 15 Nov 2008 SCO v SAF 1:1
Sat, 15 Nov 2008 ENG v AUS 1:1
Sat, 15 Nov 2008 FRA v PAC 5:1
Sat, 15 Nov 2008 ITA v ARG 1:1
Sat, 22 Nov 2008 WAL v NZL 0:2
Sat, 22 Nov 2008 SCO v CAN 6:0
Sat, 22 Nov 2008 IRE v ARG 1:0
Sat, 22 Nov 2008 ENG v SAF 0:5
Sat, 22 Nov 2008 ITA v PAC 2:3
Sat, 22 Nov 2008 FRA v AUS 1:2
Sat, 29 Nov 2008 ENG v NZL 0:3
Sat, 29 Nov 2008 WAL v AUS 2:2
Other Internationals
Sat, 09 Aug 2008 SAF v ARG 9:0
Wed, 03 Sep 2008 NZL v SAM 15:2
Sat, 01 Nov 2008 NZL v AUS 2:2
Sat, 08 Nov 2008 IRE v CAN 8:0
Sat, 08 Nov 2008 ENG v PAC 5:1
Date Teams Try Ratio
6 Nations
Sat, 07 Feb 2009 ENG v ITA 5:1
Sat, 07 Feb 2009 IRE v FRA 3:2
Sun, 08 Feb 2009 SCO v WAL 1:4
Sat, 14 Feb 2009 FRA v SCO 1:1
Sat, 14 Feb 2009 WAL v ENG 1:2
Sun, 15 Feb 2009 ITA v IRE 0:5
Fri, 27 Feb 2009 FRA v WAL 2:1
Sat, 28 Feb 2009 SCO v ITA 2:0
Sat, 28 Feb 2009 IRE v ENG 1:1
Sat, 14 Mar 2009 ITA v WAL 0:2
Sat, 14 Mar 2009 SCO v IRE 0:1
Sun, 15 Mar 2009 ENG v FRA 5:2
Sat, 21 Mar 2009 ITA v FRA 1:7
Sat, 21 Mar 2009 ENG v SCO 3:0
Sat, 21 Mar 2009 WAL v IRE 0:2
Southern Tour
Sat, 13 Jun 2009 ARG v ENG 2:1
Sat, 13 Jun 2009 AUS v ITA 5:1
Sat, 13 Jun 2009 NZL v FRA 2:3
Sat, 20 Jun 2009 NZL v FRA 1:1
Sat, 20 Jun 2009 AUS v ITA 5:0
Sat, 27 Jun 2009 NZL v ITA 3:0
Sat, 27 Jun 2009 AUS v FRA 1:0
Tri-Nations
Sat, 18 Jul 2009 NZL v AUS 1:1
Sat, 25 Jul 2009 SAF v NZL 2:1
Sat, 01 Aug 2009 SAF v NZL 1:1
Sat, 08 Aug 2009 SAF v AUS 1:2
Sat, 22 Aug 2009 AUS v NZL 0:1
Sat, 29 Aug 2009 AUS v SAF 3:4
Sat, 05 Sep 2009 AUS v SAF 2:0
Sat, 12 Sep 2009 NZL v SAF 2:2
Sat, 19 Sep 2009 NZL v AUS 3:0
Northern Tour
Sat, 07 Nov 2009 ENG v AUS 0:2
Sat, 07 Nov 2009 WAL v NZL 0:1
Fri, 13 Nov 2009 WAL v SAM 1:1
Fri, 13 Nov 2009 FRA v SAF 1:1
Sat, 14 Nov 2009 ENG v ARG 1:0
Sat, 14 Nov 2009 SCO v FIJ 2:1
Sat, 14 Nov 2009 ITA v NZL 0:1
Sun, 15 Nov 2009 IRE v AUS 2:2
Sat, 21 Nov 2009 SCO v AUS 0:1
Sat, 21 Nov 2009 ENG v NZL 0:1
Sat, 21 Nov 2009 WAL v ARG 3:1
Sat, 21 Nov 2009 ITA v SAF 1:4
Sat, 21 Nov 2009 FRA v SAM 7:1
Sat, 21 Nov 2009 IRE v FIJ 5:0
British and Irish Lions Tour
Sat, 20 Jun 2009 SAF v LIO 2:3
Sat, 27 Jun 2009 SAF v LIO 3:1
Sat, 04 Jul 2009 SAF v LIO 0:3
Other Internationals
Sat, 23 May 2009 CAN v IRE 0:3
Sat, 30 May 2009 CAN v WAL 2:2
Sun, 31 May 2009 USA v IRE 1:4
Sat, 06 Jun 2009 ENG v ARG 3:0
Sat, 06 Jun 2009 USA v WAL 2:6
Sat, 04 Jul 2009 USA v CAN 0:0
Sat, 11 Jul 2009 CAN v USA 6:2
Sat, 31 Oct 2009 NZL v AUS 2:1
Date Teams Try Ratio
6 Nations
Sat, 06 Feb 2010 ENG v ITA 5:1
Sat, 06 Feb 2010 IRE v ITA 2:1
Sat, 06 Feb 2010 ENG v WAL 3:2
Sun, 07 Feb 2010 SCO v FRA 0:2
Sat, 13 Feb 2010 WAL v SCO 3:2
Sat, 13 Feb 2010 FRA v IRE 3:1
Sun, 14 Feb 2010 ITA v ENG 0:1
Fri, 26 Feb 2010 WAL v FRA 2:2
Sat, 27 Feb 2010 ITA v SCO 1:0
Sat, 27 Feb 2010 ENG v IRE 1:3
Sat, 13 Mar 2010 IRE v WAL 3:0
Sat, 13 Mar 2010 SCO v ENG 0:0
Sun, 14 Mar 2010 FRA v ITA 6:2
Sat, 20 Mar 2010 FRA v ENG 0:1
Sat, 20 Mar 2010 WAL v ITA 3:1
Sat, 20 Mar 2010 IRE v SCO 2:1

Dropkicks Research Dept: The Biggest Loser

Posted by Hadyn on Monday, 21 Apr 2008.

Danica.JPGDanica Patrick’s recent struggles for victory in the IRL caused some people to call her the “Anna Kournikova of racing”. Now that she has won a race the moniker has been removed.

But was it fair in the first place? And how does Patrick and Kournikova compare to other big-name SCYSFs*?

*So Close Yet So Far

Well the Dropkicks are not the type to shy away from such hard-nosed investigative questions, so we set our Research Department to work. They scoured the internet for ages sifting through many hundreds of photos of Danica Patrick in bikinis before finally being yelled at to "get back to work!"

And here's what they came up with (obviously comparisons across sports are slightly silly but let’s have a look anyway):

Date Teams Try Ratio

Athlete Sport Games/events before first win Years before first win Total number of victories now Total number of titles now
Danica Patrick Racing 51 races over four seasons (including this year) 4 years (2005-2008) 1 0
Anna Kournikova Tennis (singles) 21 Grand slams + 40 other tournaments = 61 total (338 matches) 9, still no tournament victory If ITF women's circuit and Fed Cup participations are included, overall win-loss record stands at 209-129 matches 0
Phil Mickelson Golf Couldn’t find the info on this one, yes, we could've looked harder Before first PGA tour win – 2 years
Before first Majors victory – 14 years
33 PGA Tour victories 3 Major titles
Jack Nicklaus Golf 12 Majors (unknown number of PGA tour events) Six years (1957-1962) 73 PGA Tour wins 18 Majors
Buffalo Bills American Football 612 games (including post-season) since the AFL-NFL merger and the only team to reach four consecutive Superbowls 1 (because they have won a game, just no championships).
38 years without a championship title.
276 regular season wins and 14 post-season wins 0-4 Superbowl wins
New Zealand Test Cricket 44 tests 26 years 65 N/A
Jenson Button F1 Racing 117 races 7 years 1 0

It’s interesting to note that Jenson Button made some rather nasty comments about the possibility of Patrick racing F1 cars. Obviously now she can tell him to go fuck himself.

So as you can see Danika Patrick was no Anna Kournikova. Kournikova herself is no Buffalo Bills (despite how bad they were). Patrick may well become Jack Nicklaus, probably not,  who knows.

Research: We Does It!

Posted by Hadyn on Monday, 05 Nov 2007.

After being asked "how it could be that NZ, Oz and T&T could be tied for first place at the 1979 Netball World Championship?" we didn't just ignore it like we normally might. No! we emailed someone who found out for us:

Hi Hadyn,
 
lystra.jpgThanks for your interest in the Netball World Championships - I'm pleased to see that our website has been useful to you, and hope the Silver Ferns will cheer up all those depressed AB fans!
 
Your query about the 1979 World Netball Championships has been forwarded to me and I'm pleased to answer it as best I can.

The 3-way tie in 1979 happened because that tournament wasn't organised to produce a Final as the 2007 one is, although the initial set-up was similar.  
 
In 1979 the teams were drawn in five Groups, numbered 1-5, for Preliminary round-robin play. The top two teams in each Group then went through to Group A to play off for Places 1-10; with the bottom two teams in each Group going through to Group B to play off for Places 11-20. (Kenya was a withdrawal so there were actually 19, not 20 teams.)

Groups A & B then proceeded to play another series of round-robin games - instead of moving into a knock-out phase of quarter-finals, semi-finals and finals to determine final placings, as will happen at this year's tournament.  

In addition, draws were allowed in both the Preliminary and Final rounds. This year draws can happen only in the Pool Games - after that each game which ends in a draw must play through Extra Time and Extended Extra Time to a result. (See Tournament Rules for details.)

So what happened in Group A's Final Round in 1979? Each of the top three teams won 8 of nine matches, losing once, to one of the other two: Australia beat NZ 38-36; Trinidad & Tobago beat Australia 40-38; and NZ beat T&T 49-33. The world championship rules of the time did not provide any other way of determining an outright winner, so the three teams shared the title. Hence, Trinidad & Tobago remains the only team apart from NZ and Australia to win the world championships.

As far as I can tell, the first time the tournament was structured to produce a distinct Final to determine the winner was in 1991, when Australia defeated New Zealand to win the title.

If this isn't way too much information already, please let me know; I'm also happy to answer any other queries you may have.

Cheers,
Susan

Website Manager
New World Netball World Championships 2007

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